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but leon panetta is having him say goodbye to his employees tuesday, this coming week. he's planning on getting out of there. he can stay after the goodbye but it's a big -- chris: to vote next week. >> interesting footnote on the debate whether to arm the syrian rebels. we now know last summer the c.i.a. director petraeus, secretary of state clinton denouncing secretary defense panetta and the joint chiefs said yeah, let's do it. in the fall after it was turned down, they red-teamed it to see what the effect would have been and their conclusion was it would not have been decisive if the u.s. had followed that program of arming rebels in part because the rebels already have so many weapons anyway, that's not their problem. chris: one thing i like about that story, it tells who makes the decisions. >> the reason it's happening -- chris: the president -- >> i'm ending two wars, why do i want to get in another one? >> the reason it's interesting is when you talk about the president and his relationship with hillary clinton, none of that leaked? she has been so loyal to thi
but leon panetta is having him say goodbye to his employees tuesday, this coming week. he's planning on getting out of there. he can stay after the goodbye but it's a big -- chris: to vote next week. >> interesting footnote on the debate whether to arm the syrian rebels. we now know last summer the c.i.a. director petraeus, secretary of state clinton denouncing secretary defense panetta and the joint chiefs said yeah, let's do it. in the fall after it was turned down, they red-teamed it...
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panetta talking about the giant screw-up in benghazi, libya and brennan explaining the killer drone, does he want to be the next cia director. and let's talk benghazi first, did you learn anything? >> well, one thing that was interesting i thought from the panetta testimony is when general dempsey, he testified with leon panetta chairman of the joint chiefs and he said he was surprised when he was pressed that hillary clinton didn't read that all important august 15th cable, right, where chris stevens said, we aren't going to be able to repel and attack in benghazi with what we have. and he was pressed on that. are you surprised she didn't see he it, well, yeah, i was surprised. it looked like there was buck passing from panetta and dempsey to the state department because they said people are wondering why we didn't have armed aircraft in the vicinity, well, we didn't have enough time, and essentially saying the state department didn't request it. so, it all seems like, you know, fingers are pointing in the other direction. >> bill: here is what i think. >> i didn't learn that much.
panetta talking about the giant screw-up in benghazi, libya and brennan explaining the killer drone, does he want to be the next cia director. and let's talk benghazi first, did you learn anything? >> well, one thing that was interesting i thought from the panetta testimony is when general dempsey, he testified with leon panetta chairman of the joint chiefs and he said he was surprised when he was pressed that hillary clinton didn't read that all important august 15th cable, right, where...
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the sequestration, secretary panetta, one of the most widely respected men, person in washington, d.c. and he has been saying it will devastate our national security. we are -- republicans and democrats are responsible for the new cliff and i'll take responsibility for it for the republicans but we have got to avoid it. we have to stop it. >> chris: the president says -- the price of that i more taxes. >> the president is the same person who during the campaign said it will not happen. remember that? he dismissed it and a lot of us, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte traveled around the country warning about what will happen as a result of sequestration. and the world is very dangerous -- i'm sorry i'm emotional about this but this men and women serving in the military deserve better than what we are giving them. they don't know what they'll be doing tomorrow. we deplayed the deployment of an aircraft carrier. the cuts are coming across the board. the consequences are severe and it requires bipartisanship and, will i look at revenue closers, maybe so but we have raised tax. why do we hav
the sequestration, secretary panetta, one of the most widely respected men, person in washington, d.c. and he has been saying it will devastate our national security. we are -- republicans and democrats are responsible for the new cliff and i'll take responsibility for it for the republicans but we have got to avoid it. we have to stop it. >> chris: the president says -- the price of that i more taxes. >> the president is the same person who during the campaign said it will not...
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. >> defense secretary leon panetta says that if sequestration kicks in and billions of defense cuts are allowed to stand, he will throw the -- it will for the defense strategy out the window. if congress does not act to stop this, there will be a $1.20 trillion cut in spending, half in the defense department, and no corresponding rise in taxes. what is your best guess, evan? will it happen? >> yeah, a kid is going to happen. >> mark, if it does happen, the consequences? >> carl levin, i respect as much as any member of congress, thinks the odds are about even. the iceberg is at there and we can see it and we continue to sail in the direction of that. i think republicans, particularly speaker boehner, don't want it. >> colby, how did it come to this? >> they kicked it down the road. they tried to put this up to frighten everybody, but they cannot get together on the questions of tax cuts, cutting spending, entitlement reform. we are not going to have a sequestration. we are going to have castration of the military, castration of domestic programs. they see it coming. the president co
. >> defense secretary leon panetta says that if sequestration kicks in and billions of defense cuts are allowed to stand, he will throw the -- it will for the defense strategy out the window. if congress does not act to stop this, there will be a $1.20 trillion cut in spending, half in the defense department, and no corresponding rise in taxes. what is your best guess, evan? will it happen? >> yeah, a kid is going to happen. >> mark, if it does happen, the consequences?...
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. >> defense secretary leon panetta says that if sequestration kicks in and billions of defense cuts are allowed to stand they will have to for the defense strategy out the window, badly damamaging our ability to respond toto crises around the world. it would be a $10 trillion cut in spending, half from the defense department, no corresponding rise in taxes. what is your best guess, evan will happen? >> yeah, i think it willappen. >> i if that happens mk, the consequences? >> carl levin thinks the odds are probably even. the iceberg is there, we can see it, and we continue to sell the ship in the direction of it. i think repubublicans particularly speaker boehner, don't want a. >> colby, how did it come to this? >> they kicked it down the r road. they put it off, thought it would never happen. they put it up so that it frightened everybody but they cannot get themselves together. tax cuts, entitlement reform -- they can not get it done. we are not going to have sequestration. we are going to have castration of the military, castration of domestic programs and a they see it coming. an
. >> defense secretary leon panetta says that if sequestration kicks in and billions of defense cuts are allowed to stand they will have to for the defense strategy out the window, badly damamaging our ability to respond toto crises around the world. it would be a $10 trillion cut in spending, half from the defense department, no corresponding rise in taxes. what is your best guess, evan will happen? >> yeah, i think it willappen. >> i if that happens mk, the consequences?...
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that is, find him. >> the president and outgoing defense secretary leon panetta together again today. what about when this was happening? we got our answer yesterday. >> are you prized that the president of the united states never called you, secretary panetta, and said, how is it going? >> you know, normally in these situations, d. >> did he know the level of threat? >> let me finish the answer. we were deploying the forces. he knew we were deploying the forces. he was -- >> i hate to interrupt you. we didn't deploy any forces, did you -- >> the event was over by the time -- >> mr. secretary, you didn't know how long the attack would last. did you ever call him and say, mr. president, it looks like we don't have anything to get there anytime soon? >> the event was over before -- >> is lasted almost eight hours. my question to you is, during that eight hour period, did the president show any curiosity about, hough is this going, what kind of assets do you have helping these people? did he ever make that phone call? >> there is no question in my mind president of the united states was
that is, find him. >> the president and outgoing defense secretary leon panetta together again today. what about when this was happening? we got our answer yesterday. >> are you prized that the president of the united states never called you, secretary panetta, and said, how is it going? >> you know, normally in these situations, d. >> did he know the level of threat? >> let me finish the answer. we were deploying the forces. he knew we were deploying the forces....
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secretary panetta said it wasn't him. acting dci said it wasn't him. ambassador kennedy said it wasn't him. let me ask you again. who briefed the president on actually what was happening throughout this seven-hour period? >> well, in the conversation, that i was in, the national security staff was present. some of the people -- >> brennan had been included that? >> you are asking who did a briefing? that is different than who is in the conversation? >> brian: i am so confused. that's like trying to find out why you are getting a "d" in the subject. just answer the question. it doesn't seem like to president was curious yet and anyone saying i briefed the president. he called me over and over again and i called over to the secretary of defense. >> kimberly: that is called a coverup. two things. maybe not that interested. and not giving all the information. somebody is not telling the truth. >> andrea: i don't know if it's enough to stop the nomination. the biggest news came when secretary panetta and dempsey said they briefed him once and the president
secretary panetta said it wasn't him. acting dci said it wasn't him. ambassador kennedy said it wasn't him. let me ask you again. who briefed the president on actually what was happening throughout this seven-hour period? >> well, in the conversation, that i was in, the national security staff was present. some of the people -- >> brennan had been included that? >> you are asking who did a briefing? that is different than who is in the conversation? >> brian: i am so...
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those steps are as far as leon panetta can go under current law. and this is remarkable. look at this. this is from the memo today. he writes, quote, in the event that the defense of marriage act is no longer applicable to the department of defense, it will be the policy of the department to construe the words "spouse" and "marriage" without regard to sexual orientation. and married couples, irrespectable of sexual orientation and their dependents will be granted full military benefits. it's remarkable, right? it's leon panetta saying that today's list of 40 or so new benefits for equal treatment for gay soldiers and their families is as far as the military can take this equality thing right now. but that the military would like to go the rest of the way right now. they would like to equalize all benefits. the reason they can't go further is defense of marriage act signed into law by president clinton, and president clinton now disavows it. to some extent, the question of whether or not the military is going to be as equal as it wants to be depends on the u.s. supreme cou
those steps are as far as leon panetta can go under current law. and this is remarkable. look at this. this is from the memo today. he writes, quote, in the event that the defense of marriage act is no longer applicable to the department of defense, it will be the policy of the department to construe the words "spouse" and "marriage" without regard to sexual orientation. and married couples, irrespectable of sexual orientation and their dependents will be granted full...
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i think leon panetta's been a pretty good secretary. >> rose: drones. john brennan got into it at his confmati. me s thathis is an unusual situation. that the president has carried forward some of the baigs policies and that he's effectively waged war against terrorism using drones and that he should be commended for it. what say the former vice president? >> well, i like the drone program. when we came in, we had the drones as intelligence platforms but we didn't have any weapons on them. they were unarmed so you could go find a target but then you had to bring in another platform in order to take it out. and it was about the time of 9/11 or shortly before that that we began to arm drones so you could find a target and hit it at the same time. a hellfire missile or a 500 pound bomb. i think it's a good program and i don't disagree with the basic policy that the obama administration has pursued in that regard. i put a caveat on there. i don't think they have the capacity at this point to capture al qaeda individuals and be able to develop them as source
i think leon panetta's been a pretty good secretary. >> rose: drones. john brennan got into it at his confmati. me s thathis is an unusual situation. that the president has carried forward some of the baigs policies and that he's effectively waged war against terrorism using drones and that he should be commended for it. what say the former vice president? >> well, i like the drone program. when we came in, we had the drones as intelligence platforms but we didn't have any weapons...
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. >> defense secretary leon panetta says that if sequestration kicks in and billions in defense cuts are allowed to stand, he will have to throw the nation's defense strategy out the window, damaging our ability to respond to crises. if congress does not act to stop this, it will be a $1.20 trillion cut in spending, half from the defense department, no corresponding rise and a texas. what is your best guess, evan? >> i think it is going to happen. i don't think congress is capable of getting it together. to. >> if that happens, mark, the consequences? >> carl levin thinks the odds are probably even. but the iceberg is there, we can see it, and we continue to sail in the direction of it. i think republicans, particularly speaker boehner, don't want eight. >> colby, how did it come to this? >> they kicked it down the road on this problem, they put it off, thought it would never happen. they put it up to frighten everybody, but they cannot get themselves together on the question of tax cuts, cutting spending, entitlement reform. they cannot get it done. we are not going to have sequestr
. >> defense secretary leon panetta says that if sequestration kicks in and billions in defense cuts are allowed to stand, he will have to throw the nation's defense strategy out the window, damaging our ability to respond to crises. if congress does not act to stop this, it will be a $1.20 trillion cut in spending, half from the defense department, no corresponding rise and a texas. what is your best guess, evan? >> i think it is going to happen. i don't think congress is capable...
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this is from the hearing with panetta and dempsey. they are asked about the memo sent up the chain to hillary clinton where she says she didn't see it. dempsey, chairman of the joint chief and secretary of defense asked about it specifically. >> you said previously you were aware of that. >> i was aware of the communication back to state department. >> when secretary clinton testified a few weeks ago she had a clear eyed assessment of the threat we faced in libya, is that really a credible statement? if she didn't know about the ambassador's cable on august 15 saying we can't defend this place? >> i don't know if she didn't know about the cable. >> she said she didn't. >> are you stunned that she didn't? >> i'm call myself surprised. >> we are surprised. >> this is from the ambassador who is later killed that said this is indefensible. we are attacked we'll die. the secretary of state for whom this ambassador is working didn't see it, so that is issue number one on the prehistory. secondly on the day of the attack, the president had a
this is from the hearing with panetta and dempsey. they are asked about the memo sent up the chain to hillary clinton where she says she didn't see it. dempsey, chairman of the joint chief and secretary of defense asked about it specifically. >> you said previously you were aware of that. >> i was aware of the communication back to state department. >> when secretary clinton testified a few weeks ago she had a clear eyed assessment of the threat we faced in libya, is that...
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but, first, the president wants to replace secretary panetta -- the man he wants to replace panetta with, chuck hagel, is having his confirmation held up. now, can you explain inwhat this is about? what's happened? >> reporter: sure. well, the vote for chuck hagel to be confirmed has to come out of the senate armed services committee, and republicans there have asked mr. hagel for really some intense background questions as to whether or not he has been paid by any company that has dealings with foreign companies in the last five years. they want to have all the records about anything that he's been paid $5,000 or more through speeches or various things over the last few years. karl kevin thoucarl levin thoug the ranking member for 26 years, says this has been unprecedented by republicans. they're really going after all this information because they simply want to delay mr. hagel. he released a letter today that said mr. hagel's nomination will move forward next week. hopefully be voted out of committee. that's what democrats feel. and they held the numbers there, 14-12, so they believe
but, first, the president wants to replace secretary panetta -- the man he wants to replace panetta with, chuck hagel, is having his confirmation held up. now, can you explain inwhat this is about? what's happened? >> reporter: sure. well, the vote for chuck hagel to be confirmed has to come out of the senate armed services committee, and republicans there have asked mr. hagel for really some intense background questions as to whether or not he has been paid by any company that has...
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proposed these automatic spending cuts, and now they're saying it would be so awful, there is leon panetta, the out going defense secretary saying it would hollow out the military. this is not how washington is supposed to operate, is it? >> no, it's not, and let me explain. when the president proposed a sequester, it was as an incentive to those of us in congress to work together on a bipartisan basis to solve these problems. it was supposed to be so awful that the super committee would finally reach a bipartisan agreement, but because they completely rejected revenue, it never happened. now we go through the fiscal cliff. we have imposed about roughly $700 billion in new taxes on the wealthiest americans over the next ten years. the president believes, and i agree, within tax reform, we can find additional savings over the next ten years, use that to move toward deficit reduction and still keep this economy moving forward. >> so, how do you gain this -- again, i go back to what the president said a year ago, that he was going to fight obstruction with action. what does he have to show fo
proposed these automatic spending cuts, and now they're saying it would be so awful, there is leon panetta, the out going defense secretary saying it would hollow out the military. this is not how washington is supposed to operate, is it? >> no, it's not, and let me explain. when the president proposed a sequester, it was as an incentive to those of us in congress to work together on a bipartisan basis to solve these problems. it was supposed to be so awful that the super committee would...
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leon panetta talking about the giant screw up in benghazi, libya. john brennan explaining the killer drone situation to the senate because he wants to be the new cia director. joining us now from florida where she has been monitoring the proceedings today laura ingraham. so let's take benghazi first. did you learn anything? >> well, one thing that was interesting i thought from the panetta testimony is when general dempsey, he testified with leon panetta, chairman of the joint chiefs and he said he was surprised when he was pressed that hillary clinton didn't read that all important august 15th cable, right, where chris stevens said we aren't going to be able to repel an attack in benghazi with what we have. he was pressed on that. surprised didn't see it yeah, i would say i was surprised. i thought that was interesting. because it looked like buck passing going on panetta and demps dr. from the state department. people are wondering why we didn't have armed aircraft in the vicinity. well, we didn't have enough time essentially saying the state depa
leon panetta talking about the giant screw up in benghazi, libya. john brennan explaining the killer drone situation to the senate because he wants to be the new cia director. joining us now from florida where she has been monitoring the proceedings today laura ingraham. so let's take benghazi first. did you learn anything? >> well, one thing that was interesting i thought from the panetta testimony is when general dempsey, he testified with leon panetta, chairman of the joint chiefs and...
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and my understanding is that panetta and others didn't push for it because of the risk involved that the congressman just laid out and because these arms could end up in the hands of al qaeda or they could be used against israel. so this is -- this is why administrations are set up. this is why national security teams have been built. this is why the president wanted such strong personalities and expertise on the national security team. doesn't always agree with them but he gets their best advice and then he makes the decision. he's the commander in chief. >> just two quick political points. i mean, if you look at where president obama's foreign policy is likely to crack wide open among partisan lines, this is it. you will see senators mccain, i think, and graham and others start to string together instances of america leading from behind and of this president's comfort in doing so in places like libya and now in syria, and i think this will become the most political part of the president's -- >> scrambling with party lines over here. >> but i think this is where he's opening himself
and my understanding is that panetta and others didn't push for it because of the risk involved that the congressman just laid out and because these arms could end up in the hands of al qaeda or they could be used against israel. so this is -- this is why administrations are set up. this is why national security teams have been built. this is why the president wanted such strong personalities and expertise on the national security team. doesn't always agree with them but he gets their best...
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we had to [ bleep ] secretary panetta. we joked about this as an issue during our interview with secretary panetta. we didn't have to bleep him then, but we did have to bleep him yesterday. anyway, just ask yourself, though, confirmation hearings, they may not be decisive, but they do matter. ask yourself while john brennan and jack lew are frankly having an easier confirmation process. no -- wasn't exactly going through scot-free, but they had good hearings. they aced the hearing part of the confirmation. hagel was a borderline disaster on style for his confirmation hearing and he certainly struggled on substance. and that's where we are. and by the way, if hagel does get through, he's going to go in as a very, very weak secretary of defense, that has to be wearing on the mind of the folks that sit in the west wing. jack reed is the president on line one. anyway, president obama's outside game is clear. he's on the road, pushing a raft of politically popular initiatives, daring republicans to essentially fall into a polit
we had to [ bleep ] secretary panetta. we joked about this as an issue during our interview with secretary panetta. we didn't have to bleep him then, but we did have to bleep him yesterday. anyway, just ask yourself, though, confirmation hearings, they may not be decisive, but they do matter. ask yourself while john brennan and jack lew are frankly having an easier confirmation process. no -- wasn't exactly going through scot-free, but they had good hearings. they aced the hearing part of the...